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allenlofland

Hows your boat sail ?

In the process of selling our Endeavour 42, we have been asked over and over,,,How's she Sail ???? Well how do you answer that, I certainly am not going to say anything negative but then any thing I say positive is just considered selling.....I would like some of you that have E 42's to describe Cool how you find the E 42 actually handles in different conditions, This would be good for the archives also as people looking for a good boat will find these comments Smile Thanks
ssteakley

Interested in the E42 as our next boat

We will retire after summer 2008. We are researching boats that will fit our cruising needs. The dream cruise for us will include a shake down cruise up the east Coast to learn the boat and make any necessary upgrades where there are plentiful American Harbors. Then down through the Carribean chain Island hopping, through the Panama and up the West coast to Vancouver and perhaps into the inside passage to Alaska. Then back to our home port in Texas.
So the question is the E42 up to the challenge, especially the West coast part of this dream? There will be no time table so we will always be able to wait for good weather but there is always the times when you get caught out in it and want to make sure you have a boat that can take the weather that comes at you. Since we will be living aboard full time during this cruise we really like the E42's space & layout.
thanks,
anne

E42 Sailing

I've owned Blue Runner, 1989 E42 Sloop, for over 5 years now. I've done many Gulf Stream crossings and cruised the Bahamas and Florida. We're currently sailing through the Caribbean and to points beyond.

When the wind is right (10 - 15, even 15 - 20 knots) she's quick at 6 to 7 knots most of the time. As with many cruising boats, we don't sail to the wind very well and need at least 25 degrees off in order to hold close hauled. The ride is comfortable and the boat can handle big seas. We've been caught in some stormy weather and the boat has handled it well, sometimes better than the crew.

http://www.sailbluerunner.com
ssteakley

How she handle in heavy seas?

Bluerunner,
thank you for the reply,
can you describe the type of seas you have experienced in your E42. Certainly with several gulf stream crossings you have had to manage a bit,
anne

Type of Seas

Last winter, on a crossing from Miami to N. Bimini we had a solid 8 - 10 ft. seas on the beam with a 20 - 25 knot North wind. I was very glad to have a sailboat that day. There were a few times when the boat turned up into the wind with a stronger gust, but overall she did very well at around 7.5 knots. A very quick crossing!

We had the same situation in the Tongue of the Ocean, except the seas were on the nose. We opted to motor straight into the weather and make port as fast as we could -- all of 4.5 knots.

I've had the boat in sudden squalls (40 - 50mph winds) and 4 - 6 ft seas on the Great Bahama Bank, and in Key Largo. We've also had her on anchor in the same scenerio (scary, but we're still here to tell about it).

I've lived in South Florida for the past 5 years and rode out 6 hurricanes onboard, tied to something, of course. No major damage.

With a 62' mast on a 42' boat, there's a lot of sail area. There is also a lot of windage with the hull design. The way I see it is if you take care of the boat, she'll take care of you. So far, so good!

http://www.sailbluerunner.com
ssteakley

Bluerunner,
that is what I expected to hear. I think your last comment is the most important, you learn how to sail the boat you have. I have researched lots of boats the last two years (over 60). Tayana 42, Valient 40, Vagabond 42, Island Packet 38 & 40, Passport 40 & 42, Endeavour 42, are a few that made it to the top of the list. If you go to any of the owner sites and ask them about the capability of thier vessels they all claim to have the best sailboat made for ocean cruising. I say cruising because we will not make any long passages or crossings. The Valient folkes are the most adament about their boat...nobody has an ugly baby. I have used a spreadsheet to list the specifications for each of the boats and their design ratios like capsize ratio, comfort ratio, D/L ratio etc. the Endeavour 42 rates very good on all of the ratios, (The Tayana 42 is the best of the group when considering these ratios). We were in Kemah looking at a few boats when our broker took us aboard a E42 which was I was not even considering at the time. We were very impressed with the layout, space, and construction of the boat. We have worked with this broker for several years and he knows us pretty well by now and he is convinced the E42 is the right boat for us. We are chartering a Tayana 42 in the San Juans next week so we will get to spend a week evaluating that boat. Perhaps I can find a E42 somewhere USA to do the same?
a couple more questions
1. we all know the disadvantage of the E42's high freeboard ..windage, what are the advantages of the high freeboard? Does it offer a drier bluewater passage?
2. I have heard that center cockpits are wetter since they are closer to midships. Is this true of the E42 and of course does a dodger/Bimini rectify this?
3. I know the center cockpit allows for much better visability (after having sailed on a E40 a few times), but 1 person mentioned the motion in a center cockpit is a bit worse than a aft cockpit. I did not notice any motion difference when on the E40 but we were in Corpus Christi bay with 10-15 and short chop,

thanks
pwmullins

I've owned an Endeavour 42 18 years and have thoroughly enjoyed sailing her back from the Bahamas 4 times, and south FL2 times. I live in the Charleston, SC area and go offshore very often.

I travel the ICW from the Outer Banks to Fl and enjoy the 5 ft. draft and 61ft. mast when I have to pass under the fixed bridges.

I find that the center cockpit is very comfortable and allows 2 adults to fully lie down on the cockpit seats. It is important that you have a windshield and bimini to protect against head seas.

We lived aboard for 2 years and even though she has high freeboard, the extra room inside was enjoyed immensely. I never have had a problem with the boat because of the high freeboard.

The engine, Yanmar 4 JHTE, has only 1500 hrs. on it, not bad for a boat of this age. We just spent 11 days on her cruising around Hilton Head Is. and it ran perfectly.

I did have a problem one day rolling up my genny, and got it hour glassed , but finally got it down after turning the boat in a circle for about 25 times. It's amazing how the boat will turn on it's own keel in it's own space. Had to repair the sail, though,but it was only cosmetic damage to the sacrificial cover.

Hope this helps,

S/V Katash
Isle of Palms, SC
anne

?s on E42

1. More freeboard = better interior space. The E42 has at least 6'2" headroom throughout the vessel. It's a small trade off, since the majority of the time we're living onboard and not underway.

2. I have a full bimini/dodger enclosure in front. When the helmsman starts to get spray, we zip the middle section of the dodger and it's a dry ride. Most of the time we're running the autopilot while on crossings, so we can sit at the stern and monitor the GPS from there. Without the bimini/dodger - it could be wet. However, I am not worried at all about getting pooped by a stern wave.

3. The angle of heel is greater in a center cockpit. What helps, for us anyway, are those "go anywhere" ratcheting chairs from West Marine. Two of those in the cockpit and we're sitting comfortable no matter what the heel. As far as the boat motion - in a rolling sea, any boat is going to feel it.

Everything is a compromise. I knew very little about cruising sailboats when I bought the E42 5+ years ago. Since then, I've been on many boats and have learned a great deal about sailing. I'm happy with my decision. The E42 was by far the best choice in my price range.
anne

I was asked before...

I was asked before - what are the worst conditions that I've had the boat in? Here's my new answer:

Every sailor that's gone beyond the range markers can tell you a story about some scary passages. Here is our latest...

Seventy two hours ago we left Rum Cay for the Turks & Caicos Islands. The winds were light and the swells were smooth, slow and spaced comfortably. Armed with the latest weather information from a passing freighter, we made a stop in Clarence Town, Long Island and had a perfect beam reach through the Crooked Island Passage. The rude awakening came in the dark on a moonless night as we cut between the islands and exposed ourselves to the open ocean of the Mayaguana Passage... aka the Atlantic Ocean. 20 - 25 knots of wind and 6 - 8 ft. seas became the norm, often interrupted by squalls (30+ knots of wind and 12 - 15 ft. seas). We held a reefed main occasionally, but often motored directly into the weather. Sleep was counted in minutes and food was forgotten as attention at the helm was constant. In an optimistic world our 170 mile crossing would have taken us 1.5 days. In the real world, where our average speed was 2.5 knots (3 miles per hour), the 170 miles took us nearly 4 full days.

As we now sit tied to a dock in Provo and reflect on the last leg of our journey, we are grateful to the Perkins Engine Corporation for a durable, fuel efficient, and trustworthy motor. We're also thankful that Mr. Valentijn, the designer of the Endeavour 42, created this sailboat like a tank. The boat handled everything very well and we know that someone was looking out for us over the last few days.

http://www.sailbluerunner.com
freedom

We recently were sailing on a close reach in 20 to 24k winds. Full main and full 135 jib up and doing 7.5k. Not heeling too severely. When a 30k gust hit that was a bit much so I pulled in the main most of the way and continued on with 22k winds and a 6.5k boat speed. Less main meant less weather helm too. This boat likes a bit of breeze!

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